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Long time no see! Ex just got in my head again!

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 Anna123 (original poster member #70908) posted at 8:24 PM on Friday, October 4th, 2024

I am living an awesome single life, my son turned out great, my ex cheater has paid support as required with intermittent texts mildly threatening that he would not be able to keep paying but nothing major. We had been together 30 years. He did the keep on cheating emotional torture thing when I thought we were reconciling. Divorce was final seven years ago. SO----

One of his homes owned by he and his new wife (not who he cheated with), was flooded in the hurricane. He sent me a video he made for her (I believe) to show the damage. (It still hurt for a weird flash moment hearing him talk to her in the video, and hearing his voice which I had not heard in a very long time ---- 30 years together the initial connection instinct will probably never go away.)

He proceeded to text me that he had "lost everything he had left that I didn't take" and didn't know how he was going to pay me alimony this month. Keep in mind they have two other homes and this is not their main home. Meanwhile, I live in a very affordable little condo in a not expensive area.

First off, I feel bad for their loss and the work ahead of them. Secondly, the blaming me at first made me angry, then sad. I have moved on from the cheating and divorce in my mind, my bad memories are distant now, with kind of fond memories and gratefulness that my son has done well with the divorce in it's place.. I also don't think of ex in an angry way, partly because he has paid when he is supposed to.

Here's where I went wrong.

Up until now I have a rule to text only needed facts, no emotion or opinions. But in this case I was trying to be kind in letting him know I feel terrible for their situation but reminded him that it was he who chose to destroy our family, not me taking everything he had. And hopefully he can get things resolved to get back on track with child support payments. (I call it child support because that's what it is while my son is in college) Something in this set him off!

He responded with an angry list of every dime I got in the divorce, accused me of bank fraud (because of when my lawyer had me withdraw 50% of a large payment he received.) He added in some personal stuff, and then mentioned that our son would have turned out to be a looser if he went to the college I wanted that would have been fully paid for with scholarships. (He instead convinced son to take out student loans to attend a different college, which son and I are actually happy he chose, which I pay for some of, and cheater does not).

He also said his new wife could snap her fingers and he would be on the street because of a 2 inch prenup. (I wanted to reply to how marriage is sacred and a good spouse would never snap her fingers to end a marriage but---)

I was up half the night worrying not only how to respond, but feeling guilty for my financial affect on him. I had been flirting with the idea lately that maybe I should have stayed friendly instead of no contact. It has been so unsettling to hear his hatred for me! I am surprised how it is affecting me. I didn't realize the extent of his hatred until last night. Especially because I feel far removed, yet he does have to sent that money every month so it hasn't ended for him in the same way. So, in addition to being the cause of his financial problems, he accused me of being content to make him stay on his boat and pay for home expenses when he first moved out (? Never heard this before. I recall I groveled and cried and begged him to stay, sick to my stomach for weeks, loosing over 20 pounds, kind of forgot about that but when he brought that time up it made me think back)

I did take full advantage of the law and was smart money-wise as far as taking my name off his credit cards, separating non-marital etc. in the beginning as he was having his affair and gaslighting me for the months leading to the divorce. I also do feel bad that his carreer has died off and tried other things with not much success. I know him and getting 'a regular job' would have destroyed him. (I went and got a tech school degree, punched a clock while son was at school, and am able to work part time in that field now. I was a stay at home mom with him so no career to fall back on).

I will be okay financially for the most part now, have a retirement, and will probably eventually inherit a decent bit of money and he will not. I keep thinking if there is anything as a good person I should do to ease his burden? I probably am bleeding him dry in all honesty. (What he pays now is about half of what I am paying for son's rent though- I'm so back on forth on this. I would be taking money from savings.)

So here is where I would like to ask for some input. (and thoughts on the above)

One of his accusations is I stole his IRA. I think what happened is he didn't know where to find it and never asked so I just assumed he had it in order. Out of nowhere a few months ago I can now view that account, it shows up as and option when I log in to my bank (same bank we had). He has not touched it and it is sitting there in cash not making interest, no stocks, and has not gone up. So sad. Knowing he has this cash and is over 59 1/2, has been my back up play if he stops paying that yes he does have money. If I tell him sooner, he would probably just spend it all and then my back up would be gone. Now that he brought it up I feel obligated to let him know it is there? Maybe he needs it for the flood issue?

Another issue is life insurance on himself that I own, that he probably believes is worth far more cash value than what actually happened. (I stole that also in his mind, even though it was clearly spelled out in the divorce decree, but to be honest I thought he might miss it, now I feel guilty? Do I let him know the cash values would have eventually run out if I didn't add to it? Do I let him know about a lawsuit that shows people like him were misled with higher interest number projections that never happened? It may make him less angry to know there is so much less money than he thinks sitting there. I also have it in my mind this is for my son, even though it is in my name.

How do I respond? Do I respond? What do I tell him, if anything? I hate not sticking up for myself when he feels so much vengeance. And softening the numbers might help?

By the way, after the long tirade last night ( I did not respond) this morning he texted and nicely said he will pay the next month or so when he can get back on his feet. This was a patten through our marriage. Attack, and be nice the next day, and I would be oh so happy all was well in the world again.

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Superesse ( member #60731) posted at 9:14 PM on Friday, October 4th, 2024

Well I skipped over the uglies he threw your way after your moment of empathy, but here's what he just showed you: HE HASN'T CHANGED A BIT.

You should take solace that your life since D has not had his BS to deal with. This storm has ruined so many or killed them. But there's no excuse for that kind of response. UGH.

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EllieKMAS ( member #68900) posted at 9:33 PM on Friday, October 4th, 2024

I'm just not gonna go point by point. Because you know what could've saved him all of this? If he'd kept it in his pants.

YOU did not do this to him. You didn't create the situation he's in. You didn't make the choice to blow up your marriage. HE did allllll of that, on his own, with no input from you. And all of this he's dealing with now is a direct consequence of the choices HE made.

So if he doesn't like the bed he made that really sounds like a him problem, not a you one and you have not one diddly damn thing to feel guilty about.

"No, it's you mothafucka, here's a list of reasons why." – Iliza Schlesinger

"The love that you lost isn't worth what it cost and in time you'll be glad that it's gone." – Linkin Park

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JasonCh ( member #80102) posted at 10:14 PM on Friday, October 4th, 2024

Go back to bare minimum contact.

Lesson re-learned.

My XWW also has not bothered to remove my e-mail or phone from her accounts. Calls (or e-mails and letters) for overdrafts, denied charges or the like are all part of the fun.

It is all my fault smile .

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The1stWife ( Guide #58832) posted at 11:16 PM on Friday, October 4th, 2024

You are no longer responsible for him or to him.

If he still acts like a crybaby and accuses you of "stealing" from him years later and thinks he should not be forced to pay, then he’s still the same man-child you D.

Clearly he’s not learned anything.

I would stay far far away from doing anything in HIS best interest. You can see it will only become YOUR fault for the situation he is in.

I feel bad he is weathering a tough storm and devastating loss. But it’s not the end of the world and he will rebound. As you stated it’s not his main home.

Regarding his career — again not your fault or responsibility to fix. That’s HIS responsibility.

Do yourself a favor and decide to step away as his support team. Permanently.

You are a kind compassionate person. Unfortunately he does not view you that way. You cannot win w/ him.

Just my two cents. Hope this helps you.

Survived two affairs and brink of Divorce. Happily reconciled. 10 years out from Dday. Reconciliation takes two committed people to be successful.

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homewrecked2011 ( member #34678) posted at 8:09 AM on Saturday, October 5th, 2024

No, just step away.

From my experience: If you tell him about the IRA he’ll probably drag your son into saying you’ve hidden this from him all these years, and then the insanity begins all over. You and your son are in a good place now, just leave it like that.

I’ve come to realize that my xh needs to fight/argue bc his mind and life are a mess. When I tried to help him by offering solutions, that throws his brain into more chaos and he starts arguing. Thus, the pressure that was building has now dissipated by him unloading thoughts on me.

Btw great job raising your son!

Sometimes He calms the storm. Sometimes He lets the storm rage, but calms His child. Dday 12/19/11I went to an attorney and had him served. Shocked the hell out of him, with D papers, I'm proud to say!D final10/30/2012Me-55

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